Elemental Children's Ministry

Moving Children's Ministry Forward

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  • 3:22 PM henryjz - Media Panel with Bob Waliszewski, Ron Luce and Phil Vischer
  • 3:23 PM henryjz - 1/3 of all american homes have a VeggieTales video in them! Wow!
  • 3:27 PM henryjz - Ron: we need to be careful when kids are young of how much they consume because as they get older they get more used to it
  • 3:28 PM henryjz - Bob: If Jesus and his disciples were walking the streets today, how would Jesus respond to one of his disciples going to see one of the movies out now
  • 3:28 PM henryjz - Bob: Jesus isn’t anti-entertainment
  • 3:30 PM henryjz - Bob: Entertainment is a gray area, so answering the WWJD question isn’t easy… but we do need to ask the question
  • 3:31 PM henryjz - Phil: Should we only watch or read things that are safe for just our little kids? Adults are able to discern more.
  • 3:31 PM henryjz - Phil: There is a level of age-appropriateness to consider.
  • 3:32 PM henryjz - Bob: What is PG-13 today was considered R a few years ago… so using ratings as an objective measure isn’t wise
  • 3:33 PM henryjz - What affect happens when parents set standards for kids, that they aren’t willing to follow?
  • 3:33 PM henryjz - Ron: Kids are experts at spotting fakes
  • 3:38 PM henryjz - How do you respond to families who say they are a “media free” home?
  • 3:39 PM henryjz - Phil: I always wanted to be Amish :)
  • 3:39 PM henryjz - Phil: What happens when those kids grow up and are on their own? Is there a way to teach a kid to eat right when they haven’t had an option to eat wrong… teach discernment
  • 3:41 PM henryjz - Bob: We need to teach a Christ honoring standard that is in between permissiveness and legalism
  • 3:41 PM henryjz - What if parents disagree?
  • 3:42 PM henryjz - Ron: parents need to have the tough conversations and get on the same page… men listen to your wives
  • 3:43 PM henryjz - Ron: help your kids examine the values in media
  • 3:43 PM henryjz - What about video games? It’s become social… are they good? bad?
  • 3:45 PM henryjz - Phil: there are many games where you don’t know when they’re done… which is more of the “problem”
  • 3:47 PM henryjz - Phil: There is a concern over the malleability of morality in a lot of games
  • 3:48 PM henryjz - Phil: Girls games are “nice” but boys want conflict… they want to go to war… so video games are based on that; what is concerning is that they are allowed to pick their own morality
  • 3:50 PM henryjz - Bob: 30 minutes to an hour, tops, would be a good measure for video game time
  • 3:51 PM henryjz - Phil: Dad, how many hours have you played golf? Mom, how many hours have you been on FB?
  • 3:52 PM henryjz - Phil: These are all diversions. If the diversion is taking more time than real life, then you aren’t living… We are put here to produce and if all we do is consume, then our kids do the same.
  • 3:53 PM henryjz - Juli: Kids will choose realtionships most of the time over diversions
  • 3:53 PM henryjz - What are the positive elements of technology? How can we use those tools to build character?
  • 3:54 PM henryjz - Bob: I’m a great fan of TiVo and DVR… it cuts time wasted :)
  • 3:55 PM henryjz - Bob: ClearPlay is a DVD player that recognizes where edits are for movies… NOTE: I have a friend who has this and it works well
  • 3:56 PM henryjz - Phil: Use DVR to record shows that your family can watch and have it available for them to see it whenever
  • 3:56 PM henryjz - Phil: The ability to control the internet in your home is as important as watching what your kids eat
  • 3:57 PM henryjz - Phil: “I’m not technical enough!” Find someone who is.
  • 3:57 PM henryjz - Techies love to help! :) They love to go to war! :)
  • 3:58 PM henryjz - Phil: Use V-chip. Program the channels that can be accessed.
  • 3:59 PM henryjz - Ron (on social networking): you need to be on there and be their “friend”
  • 3:59 PM henryjz - Ron: Who owns your kids hearts.
  • 4:01 PM henryjz - Ron: Keep “leaning” into your kids. Keep the communication open.
  • 4:02 PM henryjz - Bob: Before you can help your children to discern media, you need to do it for yourself. Model it, be consistent… we want to honor God in our choices…
  • 4:03 PM henryjz - talking with Phil about JellyTelly
  • 4:04 PM henryjz - Phil: we need to be talking to kids everyday about God using media… they are watching so much every day so we need to come up with a way for them to interact
  • 4:04 PM henryjz - www.jellytelly.com
  • 4:05 PM henryjz - Personal Note: I love Jelly Telly!
  • 4:06 PM henryjz - Phil: Have short synopsis of each book of the Bible on Jelly Telly
  • 4:07 PM henryjz - Now watching a Bentley Brothers video about 2 Samuel… These are great!
  • 4:08 PM henryjz - You can see all these vids at www.jellytelly.com
  • 4:11 PM henryjz - There are 20 minute episodes online every day

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  • 2:07 PM henryjz - Talking out of his new book called Have a New Kid by Friday
  • 2:09 PM henryjz - Fighting is an act of cooperation with your children… you are putting a negative spin on family life
  • 2:10 PM henryjz - Having children is a huge inconvenience :)
  • 2:20 PM henryjz - Monday: Say it once, turn your back and walk away
  • 2:21 PM henryjz - Let reality be the teacher for your children
  • 2:21 PM henryjz - Parents need to respond and not react
  • 2:21 PM henryjz - If A doesn’t get done, then B doesn’t happen
  • 2:22 PM henryjz - The Christian home needs to be a place where kids can learn how to fail
  • 2:25 PM henryjz - Oops, I missed Tuesday
  • 2:25 PM henryjz - Wednesday: Find out where you, yourself have come out of… how were you parented?
  • 2:28 PM henryjz - An unhappy child is a healthy child
  • 2:28 PM henryjz - There are times they need to be unhappy because they have disobeyed or disrespected
  • 2:29 PM henryjz - We snowplow the road of life for our kids… why?
  • 2:30 PM henryjz - If kids are made the centerpiece of their lives, then where is the room for God?
  • 2:32 PM henryjz - It’s OK to treat your kids differently… it’s not about being fair
  • 2:33 PM henryjz - Train UP a child… not DOWN… train them in the way they should go… don’t expect them to misbehave before they do
  • 2:37 PM henryjz - Kids cannot be in authority over parents… Sometimes you have to pull the rug out from under them
  • 2:37 PM henryjz - Your kids must feel that he/she belongs in the family
  • 2:38 PM henryjz - Encourage your child. Don’t praise them. There is a difference.
  • 2:38 PM henryjz - BTW, this is Thursday in the book :)
  • 2:41 PM henryjz - Love your kids as they are.
  • 2:42 PM henryjz - Don’t get too impressed with yourself… be the first to apologize when you’ve done something wrong to your kids
  • 2:50 PM henryjz - Training up a child is about getting your child to live life on their own.

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  • 12:12 PM henryjz - Video intro for MOPS
  • 12:13 PM henryjz - This session isn’t going to be focus on MOPS… it’s for all parents about making throught the tough times in parenthood
  • 12:14 PM henryjz - How do we do parenting right? We are soo human… :)
  • 12:16 PM henryjz - Telling story of her daughter when she was three and not wanting to go to bed and frustrations of being a parent
  • 12:17 PM henryjz - God asks her, “Will you trust me for her? If she becomes sick? For her future mate? Where she goes to school? To select best mother for her?”
  • 12:18 PM henryjz - What are our options to be a parent?
  • 12:19 PM henryjz - Protect them! in bubble wrap
  • 12:19 PM henryjz - Brainwash them!
  • 12:19 PM henryjz - Relinquish our children!
  • 12:20 PM henryjz - Get up every single day and let them see your relationship with Jesus every day… imperfect, yes… messed up, yes… authentic
  • 12:22 PM henryjz - Reading account of Mary who comes in to pour oil on Jesus’ feet in Mark
  • 12:23 PM henryjz - Looking at Mary’s example of following God: she did what she could
  • 12:26 PM henryjz - She was there.
  • 12:26 PM henryjz - She acted
  • 12:27 PM henryjz - She offered something that was valuable
  • 12:28 PM henryjz - She did what she was able to do… no more, no less
  • 12:28 PM henryjz - Jesus expects us as parents to do what we can do… not everything
  • 12:31 PM henryjz - She challenged the ppl there about what they would do about Jesus by her actions
  • 12:32 PM henryjz - What would it mean for us as parents to show our kids our relationship with Jesus so they can have one, too?
  • 12:32 PM henryjz - She was ridiculed by the crowd but was honored by Jesus
  • 12:32 PM henryjz - The Gospel is love lived out.
  • 12:33 PM henryjz - “She did what she could” could be seen in Jesus: He did what He could…
  • 12:34 PM henryjz - What would happen if we did what we could?
  • 12:37 PM henryjz - Henry’s paraphrase: We don’t need to do everything… just do what we can… start there! It doesn’t matter
  • 12:37 PM henryjz - What if I don’t know anything? What if I’ve messed up? What if I have doubts?…
  • 12:41 PM henryjz - What matters is doing what YOU CAN do
  • 12:44 PM henryjz - Doing what we can do sometimes means that we shouldn’t do what God can do
  • 12:46 PM henryjz - What if we all did what we could? A community of believers doing what we can to lead kids to Christ?
  • 12:49 PM henryjz - I can show what I have in a relationship with Jesus so they can see what they can have in a relationship with Jesus
  • 12:50 PM henryjz - Mary discovered that she was beautiful and loved by doing what she could
  • 12:50 PM henryjz - She Did What She Could is an invitation and not a formula
  • 12:51 PM henryjz - Demonstrate the love God has given you to those around you even if it’s imperfect

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  • 11:23 AM henryjz - 5 questions to share
  • 11:23 AM henryjz - 1. What is the most difficult moment of parenting is?
  • 11:23 AM henryjz - Larry: when you let go of all ten fingers
  • 11:25 AM henryjz - Reading from Gen 37:34-35
  • 11:26 AM henryjz - Reading from Luke 15:11-13 (prodigal son)
  • 11:29 AM henryjz - story of Joseph and story of prodigal have similarities: fathers missing sons, youngest son, sons taken away, joyful reunion with sons
  • 11:29 AM henryjz - there were differences: Joseph exemplified Godly wisdom and Prodigal exemplified worldly wisdom
  • 11:30 AM henryjz - 2. How are kids doing today when they leave home?
  • 11:30 AM henryjz - look more like Joseph or Prodigal?
  • 11:30 AM henryjz - Worldview is what is in the heart… where decisions are made
  • 11:35 AM henryjz - 3. Why don’t we talk more about parents helping kids follow God?
  • 11:35 AM henryjz - a. It’s not intentional
  • 11:35 AM henryjz - b. It’s unmeasured
  • 11:37 AM henryjz - c. It’s underappreciated
  • 11:42 AM henryjz - There has to be a change of culture in the Christian homes
  • 11:46 AM henryjz - Telling story of man he had conversation with on the plane about what that man would want for his kids…
  • 11:46 AM henryjz - answer was about future family, work, etc.
  • 11:46 AM henryjz - when asked about what would grieve him, he answered “Being lost spiritually.”
  • 11:46 AM henryjz - Many parents think about temporal goals for their families but no eternal goal.
  • 11:47 AM henryjz - There is no revolution, no target and no plan
  • 11:49 AM henryjz - What do we do? Where do parents start? Three things.
  • 11:49 AM henryjz - 1. Set a target
  • 11:49 AM henryjz - Parent first answer to question of what you want to see you kids do should be for them to love God with all heart, soul, mind, strength
  • 11:49 AM henryjz - Suggests that Joseph be a target
  • 11:51 AM henryjz - 2. Have a plan
  • 11:51 AM henryjz - Doesn’t have to be overly detailed
  • 11:52 AM henryjz - Take a look at story of Joseph…
  • 11:53 AM henryjz - Gen 39: 6-9 — Joseph had respect for authority
  • 11:53 AM henryjz - Joseph has respect for marriage relationship
  • 11:54 AM henryjz - Joseph has respect for God’s standards
  • 11:54 AM henryjz - Joseph has respect for God’s authority in his life
  • 11:55 AM henryjz - In addition to respect, weave in wisdom
  • 11:56 AM henryjz - What is the source of wisdom? Joseph makes the statement that wisdom belongs to God
  • 11:57 AM henryjz - We need to help our children understand grace as well
  • 11:58 AM henryjz - Joseph showed grace to his brothers
  • 12:00 PM henryjz - We need to help our children find and do the will of God
  • 12:02 PM henryjz - We need to teach kids that God is sovereign in all things
  • 12:03 PM henryjz - 3. Start to revolt
  • 12:03 PM henryjz - Revolt against busyness, apathy, delegating away to the church, bobble head effect, no spiritual planning, no spiritual target…

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  • 9:53 AM henryjz - The conference kicked off with Matthew West leading worship.
  • 10:03 AM henryjz - Mark Holmen is being introduced by Juli Slattery
  • 10:07 AM henryjz - Stats: 61% of 20’s who went to church as kids are disengaged spiritually
  • 10:08 AM henryjz - #1 reason 20’s walk away from faith is “hypocrisy”
  • 10:14 AM henryjz - What every household needs most is to bring Christ-like living into the home… we just don’t know how because we’re 4 generations removed
  • 10:14 AM henryjz - There are no bad parents, really… just parents who have no clue about how to pass on faith because they didn’t grow up with it
  • 10:16 AM henryjz - From Deut… Moses was saying that how you decide to follow God will impact your children and your grandchildren… that’s what we see today
  • 10:17 AM henryjz - The good news is that if you choose today to follow Christ 24/7, that will impact your children for the positive!
  • 10:20 AM henryjz - Are you in love with God?
  • 10:20 AM henryjz - Do ppl who know you would say that you are in love with God?
  • 10:21 AM henryjz - Try this: ask your kids who they think you love?
  • 10:22 AM henryjz - Love the Lord your God with all YOUR heart, soul, mind, strength… it says this before it tells you to pass it on to your kids
  • 10:23 AM henryjz - You can’t pass something you don’t have to your kids
  • 10:26 AM henryjz - Mark telling story of how when he was youth pastor he thought that he did better job than parents because he was cooler and had cooler programs
  • 10:31 AM henryjz - Found out that youth pastor was WAY down on the list of influences in spirituality… mom and dad were number 1 and 2!
  • 10:33 AM henryjz - 48% of churched youth said mom was spiritual
  • 10:34 AM henryjz - 29% have done a family service project
  • 10:34 AM henryjz - 28% have talked with mom about faith
  • 10:34 AM henryjz - 13% have talked with dad about faith
  • 10:36 AM henryjz - vs 12 of deut… be careful that you do not forget the Lord… he is the source
  • 10:38 AM henryjz - We need to be careful that we don’t forget the reason we have is because God has blessed us… we need to thank him
  • 10:41 AM henryjz - We are called to be ppl who know story, tell the story and be the story
  • 10:45 AM henryjz - Mark telling the story of when he learned how to bless his children… speaker said that they would regularly pray a benediction over their children… when daughter went to college, she asked for their blessing
  • 10:48 AM henryjz - Mark started blessing his children and they have started blessing him… believing that they will bless their own children when they get married and have them
  • 10:49 AM henryjz - Even if you are older and have grandchildren, you need to bless your adult children… it’s not too late

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  • 4:42 PM henryjz - Think about the situation ppl are in… getting the elephant to move is easier if you sculpt the path downhill
  • 4:39 PM henryjz - When commitment is a problem, it might not be a personal problem but a situation problem.
  • 4:37 PM henryjz - Failure can be an early warning sign for success in that process.
  • 4:37 PM henryjz - Built into a growth mindset is the expectation of failure.
  • 4:36 PM henryjz - In a time of change, failure is a necessity.
  • 4:34 PM henryjz - if ppl have been forewarned that there is going to be difficulty, then they are able to recognize that the difficulty is part of the process
  • 4:34 PM henryjz - how do you deal with the setbacks and failures in the midst of change
  • 4:32 PM henryjz - we need to prepare people to deal with tough times… tough times tend to keep ppl from continuing in the direction they are going
  • 4:31 PM henryjz - what can we do to keep the elephant moving in the right direction?
  • 4:31 PM henryjz - if you feel like you are making headway, then that is a sign you are moving the elephant… if you feel discouraged and demoralized, then you need to do something different
  • 4:30 PM henryjz - maybe start with a bible study about integrity in the workplace that is once a week located downtown…
  • 4:30 PM henryjz - 20-somethings have a variety of things in their lives that make reaching them really big
  • 4:29 PM henryjz - How can you shrink change in losing 20 somethings from church?
  • 4:28 PM henryjz - Change many times is so big so we need to break it down into small things that can be done
  • 4:25 PM henryjz - Shrink the change
  • 4:25 PM henryjz - “Big problems, small solutions…”
  • 4:20 PM henryjz - It is similar to counseling situations… you look at the times things are going well and try to reproduce those conditions
  • 4:19 PM henryjz - If you have an organization in a time of change, you need to focus on what is working rather than looking at the weak spots, and learn from those “bright spots”
  • 4:15 PM henryjz - Change is like a human rider on a 6 ton elephant… you have to align the goals of the elephant and the rider for change to happen
  • 4:14 PM henryjz - Change is filled with conflict.
  • 4:08 PM henryjz - Craig Groeschel video intro for Chip and Dan

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  • 2:54 PM henryjz - Intro video for Jessica Jackley, co-founder of Kiva.org
  • 2:59 PM henryjz - influences to be aware of the poor:
  • 2:59 PM henryjz - in Sunday school learning Jesus saying that the poor will always be with us, which was a fear
  • 2:59 PM henryjz - second influence is that Jesus said that we need to help the “least of these”
  • 2:59 PM henryjz - What led to formation of Kiva?
  • 3:00 PM henryjz - Learned about microfinance (small loans to those in poverty) and felt that was what she needed to do
  • 3:02 PM henryjz - Started learning stories of microfinance through interviewing recipients of microfinance
  • 3:02 PM henryjz - Asked question of how to take the next step in helping these recipients
  • 3:03 PM henryjz - Wanted to not just fund but get the stories of it unfolding
  • 3:05 PM henryjz - Kiva partners with microfinance institutions all over the world, gets profiles from them of people who need microloans, lenders come onto the site and pick profiles they want to lend to
  • 3:06 PM henryjz - average need is $500, and the average loan is $100 so Kiva is getting “normal” people to lend and contribute
  • 3:07 PM henryjz - Question-what kind of life change are you seeing?
  • 3:08 PM henryjz - Parents can send their kids to school, better health, better living conditions, even something as “insignificant” as a lock on the door or sugar to put in tea to be a better host
  • 3:09 PM henryjz - 100% of loan is given to the entrepeneur
  • 3:09 PM henryjz - Question-How is Kiva doing?
  • 3:11 PM henryjz - in 4 years, went from $3000 in lending to $85 million… all because of the generosity of lenders giving as little as $25 chunks
  • 3:18 PM henryjz - The church should be the safest place for people to come up with new ideas.
  • 3:19 PM henryjz - Question-what have you found motivates ppl to give sacrificially?
  • 3:19 PM henryjz - The giving needs to have thought and intention… it needs to connect with people and change people
  • 3:20 PM henryjz - Question-do you have any fears for Kiva?
  • 3:21 PM henryjz - don’t want to allow fear to cause us to stop taking good risks
  • 3:21 PM henryjz - Question-advice to young leaders?
  • 3:21 PM henryjz - Take a step and don’t apologize for the steps you take even if very small
  • 3:22 PM henryjz - 1. don’t be afraid to start small
  • 3:22 PM henryjz - 2. just start… get going
  • 3:22 PM henryjz - Question-advice to more experienced leaders in dealing with young leaders
  • 3:23 PM henryjz - informational diversity is key… work together… be open to learning from each other
  • 3:23 PM henryjz - Final words…
  • 3:24 PM henryjz - when we truly believe in the potential of each other, then action will happen for things to get better

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  • 2:47 PM henryjz - Millennials no interested in working for Fortune 500 companies and not interested in finding Jesus in churches that feel like them
  • 2:43 PM henryjz - mobilize, connect and support is what organizations need to do now
  • 2:40 PM henryjz - the challenge is building organizations that can thrive without superhumans at the top rather than finding great leaders
  • 2:39 PM henryjz - there is no one leader who can be everything
  • 2:38 PM henryjz - in a world of accelerated change, it’s dangerous to give power to a few ppl
  • 2:37 PM henryjz - 4. cannot have a top-down model of leadership
  • 2:37 PM henryjz - are you more committed to redemption and renewal and reconciliation or are you more committed to the programs, policies and practices of your church?
  • 2:34 PM henryjz - check out other churches and see what is being done identical… ask why
  • 2:34 PM henryjz - look at all your programs/initiatives and see what hasn’t changed and why
  • 2:33 PM henryjz - how?
  • 2:32 PM henryjz - 3. need to deconstruct what you already believe (not creeds)
  • 2:31 PM henryjz - How do you get as many ppl in your church to contribute to how we make an impact?
  • 2:29 PM henryjz - Only way to do that is to have options
  • 2:29 PM henryjz - Make sure that change seems more exciting than standing still
  • 2:29 PM henryjz - 2. Generate more strategic options
  • 2:28 PM henryjz - To fight denial: face the facts, question your beliefs (not creeds), listen to the renegades/dissidents
  • 2:25 PM henryjz - Organization misses the future more because the future is unpalatable.
  • 2:24 PM henryjz - There is a process of denial: dismissal, rationalization, mitigation, self confrontation
  • 2:22 PM henryjz - 1. Conquer denial
  • 2:22 PM henryjz - 4 things to fight entropy
  • 2:22 PM henryjz - We need to change from being crisis-driven and episodic to opportunity-driven
  • 2:22 PM henryjz - It takes a crisis or change in leadership to change the downward direction of an organization
  • 2:21 PM henryjz - Success is always self-correcting :)
  • 2:21 PM henryjz - Vision leads to strategies leads to policies leads to habits… organizational entropy
  • 2:16 PM henryjz - Unprecedented changes bring unprecedent opportunities. In order to take advantage of those, though, we need to have unprecedented strategies.
  • 2:15 PM henryjz - Should we be wringing our hands because of the secularization of culture or be thankful for a new opportunity
  • 2:13 PM henryjz - Our churches haven’t been potent catalysts for spiritual growth
  • 2:12 PM henryjz - most young christians end up leaving within 8-12 weeks of having made a commitment
  • 2:10 PM henryjz - Within churches there isn’t a difference between churched or unchurched in lifestyle
  • 2:09 PM henryjz - Many Christian institutions are not keeping up… just look at the stats… more people are not attending church… outsiders have low view of Christianity
  • 2:08 PM henryjz - Inroduction by John Ortberg

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