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	<title>Comments on: My Idea Camp Workshop &#8211; Creating Culture: What About the Kids?</title>
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		<title>By: henryjz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Shah. I appreciate your thoughts on this. On  &lt;br&gt;your second point, I agree that at some point, if you continue to hit  &lt;br&gt;a communication wall after trying to bridge the gap yourself, then you  &lt;br&gt;do need to walk away. There is only so much we can do as humans trying  &lt;br&gt;to relate with other humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Shah. I appreciate your thoughts on this. On  <br />your second point, I agree that at some point, if you continue to hit  <br />a communication wall after trying to bridge the gap yourself, then you  <br />do need to walk away. There is only so much we can do as humans trying  <br />to relate with other humans.</p>
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		<title>By: ShahZam</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just left you with a long comment. I don&#039;t know where it went. So, here you go again at my 2nd attempt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Q. What do you think about my assumption that relationship and communication must be in place before tackling creating culture? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe in any successful endeavor in life there has to be certain amount of relation that comes through a solid relationship and creating culture is not exception. The best culture creating idea can fall flat on itself if the person suggesting it can&#039;t communicate it effectively with those around him/her. However, I&#039;ve noticed that it is always much easier to communicate an idea where there is a built in transparent relationship already in existence. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Q. How about my statement that those in children’s ministry have to suck it up when it comes to bridging the communication gap to those in leadership?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A. This definitely is a trust issue. I lost my job because I got tired of sucking it up for a group of leaders I had lost my trust in. BTW, how long are you supposed to suck it up before you run out of air?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS. Sorry for being among the group that got you to your workshop late and then had to leave early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just left you with a long comment. I don&#39;t know where it went. So, here you go again at my 2nd attempt.</p>
<p>Q. What do you think about my assumption that relationship and communication must be in place before tackling creating culture? </p>
<p>I believe in any successful endeavor in life there has to be certain amount of relation that comes through a solid relationship and creating culture is not exception. The best culture creating idea can fall flat on itself if the person suggesting it can&#39;t communicate it effectively with those around him/her. However, I&#39;ve noticed that it is always much easier to communicate an idea where there is a built in transparent relationship already in existence. </p>
<p>Q. How about my statement that those in children’s ministry have to suck it up when it comes to bridging the communication gap to those in leadership?</p>
<p>A. This definitely is a trust issue. I lost my job because I got tired of sucking it up for a group of leaders I had lost my trust in. BTW, how long are you supposed to suck it up before you run out of air?</p>
<p>PS. Sorry for being among the group that got you to your workshop late and then had to leave early.</p>
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