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Live Blog Idea Camp Evening Session – Feb 27, 2009

  • 5:29 AM henryjz - just finished watching a Deidox mini documentary
  • 5:30 AM henryjz - Erwin will be doing a Q&A… yes, that Erwin
  • 5:30 AM henryjz - you can now begin texting questions to 47201 CAMP + question
  • 5:30 AM henryjz - also Dave Gibbons will be up
  • 5:31 AM henryjz - Deidox guys being interviewed
  • 5:31 AM henryjz - Deidox: How do we bring these stories of ppl doing Kingdom work to challenge the church
  • 5:32 AM henryjz - charles: what is chronicle project and connection to deidox
  • 5:32 AM henryjz - Deidox: Chronicle Project is video production company and produces Deidox
  • 5:33 AM henryjz - Deidox: we are hoping to include international stories in the future
  • 5:33 AM henryjz - charles: What is your process in developing the story?
  • 5:34 AM henryjz - Deidox: Documentary has rawness to it that isn’t in fiction… especially Christian can come off cheesy
  • 5:35 AM henryjz - Deidox (sorry guys, I don’t remember their names): spend time with the person we are talking about and how to best tell the story
  • 5:36 AM henryjz - Deidox: Hopefully seeing these stories makes those not “on mission” feel left out
  • 5:36 AM henryjz - Question: What is the optimal length of digital story
  • 5:36 AM henryjz - Deidox: The one shown was 5 minutes… which seems long, especially when asking churches to show it
  • 5:37 AM henryjz - Are these stories results of relationships? How pick them?
  • 5:37 AM henryjz - Deidox: asked friends for stories and then follow up on them
  • 5:37 AM henryjz - Deidox: We are open to suggestions… Don’t want to be in control of what stories…
  • 5:38 AM henryjz - Deidox: Films online are “pay as you want”…. How cool is that?
  • 5:38 AM henryjz - Deidox: We want the videos out more than being paid
  • 5:38 AM henryjz - deidox.com
  • 5:39 AM henryjz - Deidox: It’s just a name we made up…. ha… actually dei is for God and dox for documentary so documentaries about what God is doing through ppl
  • 5:39 AM henryjz - Charles introducing next guests: Dave Gibbons first and then Eric Bryant
  • 5:40 AM henryjz - Dave Gibbons coming onstage with some of his guys
  • 5:42 AM henryjz - Dave: 2 aspects of creativity
  • 5:42 AM henryjz - Dave: pain and scarcity stir creativity unintentionally
  • 5:43 AM henryjz - Dave: What stirs creativity intentionally is focusing on the fringe
  • 5:43 AM henryjz - Dave: also focusing on intersectional thinking… cross domain your thinking
  • 5:45 AM henryjz - younger generation starts their searches on YouTube
  • 5:46 AM henryjz - now ppl are searching on twitter for real time searches
  • 5:46 AM henryjz - what does that mean for the church?
  • 5:46 AM henryjz - do you have a video presence? do you have a twitter presence
  • 5:47 AM henryjz - facebook is now normative way to communicate especially for “next” generation… email is outdated
  • 5:48 AM henryjz - there is no differentiation between online and offline for net generation…
  • 5:49 AM henryjz - as church, we need to think about how to continue conversation online
  • 5:50 AM henryjz - FB isn’t just something out there… it’s normative
  • 5:50 AM henryjz - the next big thing is mobile phone being normative
  • 5:51 AM henryjz - there are problems that require solutions, solutions looking for problems, and solutions which will position yourself to solve future probs
  • 5:51 AM henryjz - for true innovation need 3 things
  • 5:51 AM henryjz - 1. need a need
  • 5:51 AM henryjz - 2. need solution that is unique and sustainable
  • 5:52 AM henryjz - 3. you have to impact market and change it so it becomes more efficient
  • 5:52 AM henryjz - You have to do a “market analysis” to find oppotunities for where you can make an impact
  • 5:53 AM henryjz - Talk to experts and find out how they do what they do… and you can find out where they need help through “gap analysis”
  • 5:53 AM henryjz - ture innovation is when you do something no one else has or can
  • 5:54 AM henryjz - start by innovating in a vacuum after getting data so you have a clean slate
  • 5:55 AM henryjz - Innovation has to happen fast!
  • 5:55 AM henryjz - Release early, release often
  • 5:56 AM henryjz - question: what trends out there of churches using technologies
  • 5:57 AM henryjz - example: taco truck (with korean twist) twitters where he parks and 300+ show up!
  • 5:58 AM henryjz - churces need to learn how to use new communication
  • 5:58 AM henryjz - Charles introducing Eric Bryant
  • 5:59 AM henryjz - Eric going to treat us to 5 minute standup comedy routine
  • 5:59 AM henryjz - Erwin is coming up after Eric with all Q&A so text in your questions!
  • 5:59 AM henryjz - 47201 CAMP + question
  • 6:01 AM henryjz - listening to Eric Bryant doing his comedy routine… funny
  • 6:04 AM henryjz - Erwin coming up now to join Eric for Q&A
  • 6:05 AM henryjz - Q: how do churches stay current and helpful?
  • 6:06 AM henryjz - Eric: we think that we have no one talented so we can’t be relevant
  • 6:06 AM henryjz - Erwin: where does talent reside?
  • 6:07 AM henryjz - Erwin: in the people… so if you say there is no talent, then you say there is no ppl
  • 6:08 AM henryjz - Erwin: many churches are “mineral rich” but poor in other arenas… don’t neglect your “human resource”… your church is as talented as what you can see in your ppl
  • 6:09 AM henryjz - Eric: some of the best church leaders you will have don’t yet know Jesus
  • 6:09 AM henryjz - Q: what are some latest trends in min you think will fail?
  • 6:09 AM henryjz - Erwin: we’re in a recession of optimism… i don’t think things are “destined” to fail
  • 6:10 AM henryjz - Erwin: God can take “bad” ideas and use them to change the world
  • 6:10 AM henryjz - Erwin: you need to know what you MUST create
  • 6:10 AM henryjz - Q: have you seen creativity go too far
  • 6:10 AM henryjz - Erwin: creativity can’t go too far
  • 6:11 AM henryjz - Eric: being cool for the sake of being cool isn’t creativity…
  • 6:11 AM henryjz - Erwin: creating can’t ever go bad… we were created to be creative
  • 6:12 AM henryjz - Q: what books are you re-reading?
  • 6:12 AM henryjz - Erwin: the Bible
  • 6:12 AM henryjz - Eric: Jesus…
  • 6:12 AM henryjz - Erwin: it’s a miracle i read books once :)
  • 6:12 AM henryjz - Eric: the starfish and the spider and tipping point
  • 6:13 AM henryjz - Q: how is the mega church mentality shaped by American society?
  • 6:14 AM henryjz - Erwin: what do you mean by mega church? big church? there are not big churches in US… they’re in South America, Korea…
  • 6:14 AM henryjz - Erwin: in El Salvador, there’s a church with 100,000… that’s large…
  • 6:15 AM henryjz - Erwin: so few US churches are mega churches so stop worrying about them… we’re just jealous because they have more than us… we can’t deal with the envy…
  • 6:16 AM henryjz - Erwin: what i think we don’t like about “megachurch” is view of humans as homogenous, but megachurches didn’t create that… humans did… just look at suburbs
  • 6:16 AM henryjz - Erwin: megachurches are reflective of humans who go to them
  • 6:16 AM henryjz - Erwin: can’t blame mega church for a human problem
  • 6:17 AM henryjz - Erwin: question should be: do we value uniquness and are we helping people off the assembly line?
  • 6:17 AM henryjz - Erwin: small churches are far more dogmatic and unchanging
  • 6:18 AM henryjz - Erwin: small churches are like walking into ppl making out… it’s intimate for them but you don’t feel like you belong and it’s uncomfortable
  • 6:19 AM henryjz - Erwin: if you think mega church is bad, then stop destroying it and create something that is extraordinary
  • 6:19 AM henryjz - Q: what skills/values should we instill in next generation of pastors?
  • 6:21 AM henryjz - Erwin: we don’t develop leaders, we hire them from other churches
  • 6:22 AM henryjz - Erwin: our church culture only attracts ppl who are inclined to following not leading… in fact it extricates them
  • 6:22 AM henryjz - Erwin: we need to create space for leaders to emerge and they’ll figure out the skills they need
  • 6:22 AM henryjz - Erwin: we need to engage leaders so they come to a compelling faith… leaders bring leaders to faith
  • 6:23 AM henryjz - Erwin: need to learn to listen and to be aware
  • 6:23 AM henryjz - Erwin: apologetics is sending ppl to hell… we need to stop being right and listen
  • 6:25 AM henryjz - Erwin: we need to be aware of things around us to be connected to ppl around us
  • 6:26 AM henryjz - Q: thoughts on introducing creativity to older churches
  • 6:26 AM henryjz - Eric: our church is old (65 years?)
  • 6:26 AM henryjz - Erwin: you don’t introduce creativity… you start a conversation about what matters to God
  • 6:27 AM henryjz - Erwin: once you win the conversation about “why” all the other stuff is secondary… talk about what matters… what are the values
  • 6:27 AM henryjz - Erwin: we get creative when we have someone we love who needs help
  • 6:28 AM henryjz - Erwin: the day the church cares deeply, then it will become creative
  • 6:28 AM henryjz - Erwin: out of concern and compassion come creativity
  • 6:28 AM henryjz - Q: how would you start a church?
  • 6:29 AM henryjz - Erwin: dreaming, listening, having conversations, finding ppl with same desires and dreams
  • 6:29 AM henryjz - Q: what do to foster creativity?
  • 6:29 AM henryjz - Erwin: that’s Eric’s job :)
  • 6:29 AM henryjz - Erwin: we dream, play, laugh and create together
  • 6:30 AM henryjz - Eric: we enjoy each other
  • 6:31 AM henryjz - Erwin: best way to bring atheist to faith is to help them experience God first… not through apologetics
  • 6:33 AM henryjz - Erwin sharing a cool story about talking with an atheist wrestling with encountering God
  • 6:36 AM henryjz - Erwin: God is Spirit and we are connected him and when he speaks it is above everything else

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